Simpson, who had expanded his career to acting since retiring from the NFL, was arrested in the summer of 1994 on charges he murdered his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson (search), and her friend Ron Goldman (search ). In the early 1970s, Cochran also went to court in defense of Geronimo Pratt, a former Black Panther accused of murder. Dr. Black mentioned that some of the studies are actually looking at the cell phone usage found. I just think it should be something the public should know about. According to TMZ, the Florida rapper currently has a warrant out for his arrest. And those cells are more vulnerable to developing cancer from an injury or other types of problems. Jackie Chiles is a fictional character portrayed by American actor Phil Morris in the NBC sitcom Seinfeld. This big white mass, that is what's an acoustic neuroma -- a tumor of the specific nerve in that inner ear area. I'm sorry. GUPTA: Well, some of the studies that we've been talking about so far this hour talk about this specific sort of tumor and it's possible association here. And others have said the same thing. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Dr. Black, do you have questions about portable phones, cordless phones? Unfortunately, you know, my suspicion is that it's going to be five years or 10 years before we have a definitive answer. You can see it here. But if you are worried about the fact that people use phones all the time -- they have them to their ear all the time -- this would be a much safer bet than something like this. Shapiro, who is white, had accused Cochran of playing the race card and of dealing it "from the bottom of the deck.". First, Dr. Schwartz, we don't even know how we think. And, actually, before he developed the tumor that was ultimately more aggressive, I was treating Johnnie for a more benign tumor a few years before. This is animation of the brain, sort of looking at it from the behind, as you can see there. Cochran signed on as part of a "dream team" of lawyers defending the Hall of Famer. When a patient comes to the surgery, the focus is not what caused it. Doctor Khurana, you say that the danger of cell phones could have far broader health ramifications than asbestos and smoking. D. COCHRAN: You know, it was a very quiet period of time. We invited the wireless industry's trade organization, CTIA, the wireless association, to take part in tonight's discussion. BLACK: other neurological problems. If you need to flag this entry as abusive. Last month, the Supreme Court heard oral argument in the First Amendment case of Tory v. Cochran. KING: So you should check it out, any symptom? So we're really talking about a very different type of emission that is sort of the halfway between an FM radio and the microwave. And so we have a situation with a widely used technology in which we don't have very, very long-term follow-up, and we don't have very long-term follow-up of kids. It's a multi-billion dollar industry and a mounting controversy. His first wife, Barbara Cochran Berry, wrote her own memoir Life After Johnnie Cochran: Why I Left the Sweetest Talking, Most Successful Black Lawyer in L.A. accusing her ex-husband of cruel behaviors that included physical and emotional abuse. But -- and that's been one of the red flags that has raised concerns among people that are looking into this, whether there is a correlation because, you know, we see tumors developing in the location -- close to the location that people do use cell phones. Cell phones give off non-ionizing radiation. Their conclusion: we just don't know. The science would suggest that they were actually all safe. And as Dr. Gupta said, you know, that energy is directly proportional, actually, to the square of how close you hold it to your brain. And we immediately went to see a doctor in the next day or two. So my point is this, that, you know, if you read the studies alone, they'll say they're safe. One of the bigger concerns, though, I think, is the fact that it just generates a lot of heat or it generates heat. His daughter Tiffany, for one, no longer holds a cell phone to her head. is POV and doesn't make any I initially thought it might be an infection. But, you know, I've read all these studies, Larry. That is one of the problems with the Interphone study, which is the World Health Organization study between 13 countries. I don't know what you think about this whole subject. And, again, we knew it was serious, but we were trying to keep him as comfortable and maintain a good quality of life for him in the last days. Attorney Johnnie Cochran took on highly publicized police brutality cases and defended such celebrity clients as Michael Jackson and O. J. Simpson. WebJohnnie Cochran - Death. BLACK: Well, Larry, I think if we look at the evidence that we have now, it's difficult to say that cell phones have a direct link to brain cancer, but it's also difficult to say that they're safe. KING: Headaches? Anthony Mackie and Johnnie Cochran. Peter Leeds appears as Mr. Garland. WebJohnnie Cochran's widow speaks publicly for the first time since her husband's death. Did he die at home? What's known about the impact of RF on human tissue?" We need have an open mind. So just to go through what we know, we know that the type of radio frequency that comes from cell phones is very different from what comes from an X-Ray or a nuclear bomb. The flashy yet venerable attorney's health started to falter last year, according to media reports. Not from the U.S.? KING: I want you look at something on the screen now. Click here to go to our international version. CTIA also referred to us the American Cancer Society for more comments on this topic. How did he become your patient, doctor? FOX News' Jane Roh and The Associated Press contributed to this report. But there have been other studies to show no correlation. You know, one of the most common presenting symptoms in an adult is new onset seizure, as well as headaches. You remember early cell phones. It's a victory, really, for all of us. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. KING: Did Johnnie know he was passing? He's associate professor of neurosurgery at the Canberra Hospital. KING: When something happens like to Senator Ted Kennedy, that focuses more effort on it, doesn't it, more attention? Dale Cochran's First Interview Since the Death of Her Husband Johnnie; Is There a Link Between Cell Phones and Cancer? Next, a doctor who stands by that statement. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We, the jury in the above entitled action, find the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson, not guilty of the crime of murder. Rather than a tumor, he called his ailment a neurological condition requiring a procedure. KING: Thanks, Sanjay. KING: Doctor, I know it's true, having interviewed many people on the subject of tobacco and lung cancer, we can't tell you why tobacco causes lung cancer. We don't know how we think and how processing in the brain results in appropriate speech, based on different functionalities at different locations of the brain. And you're putting a heat source, essentially, close to your ear, close to your brain for, you know, again, long periods of time, depending on how long you use it. But, Larry, we also know there are other environmental causes that have been related to brain tumors as well. For a time, he represented high-profile athletes and music stars in contract matters. BLACK: I use a cell phone, but I always use an earpiece. Brad here has a wired ear piece in his left ear. He was 67. Just to orient you, the eyes are going to be up here, the ear is going to be over here. Speaking of last night, our "American Idol" contest winners, Laura from Morgantown, West Virginia, she knew the complete set list. Simpson was found not guilty in his murder trial, yet nonetheless faced civil litigation, with millions in damages awarded to the Brown and Goldman families. WebLego 41027 - Der TOP-Favorit unserer Produkttester. Cochran died at his home in Los Angeles, his family said. BLACK: Larry, typically no. And, you know, I think, for the most part, people watching who use a cell phone will be just fine. Johnnie Cochran is saying the only reason youre on this case is because youre black. I recoiled. If you heard any specific references to brand names of cell phones tonight, they are just representatives of cell phones in general, and not indicative that any brand would be more likely to cause health problems. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. And there's really no good mechanism by which non-ionizing radiation can cause brain tumors. KING: We're obviously going to devote more time to this. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If it is conclusive that it can cause brain tumors, then I think there should be some sort of a warning. Dr. Gupta is our chief CNN medical correspondent, himself is a practicing neurosurgeon. Their answer might surprise you and it's next on LARRY KING LIVE. Name: Lawrence Edward Baslee Jr. Age: 56 Arrested: 1/23/2014. KING: You are watching LARRY KING LIVE. Yet more controversy followed the lawyer when items from his personal life were publicly revealed. In 1966, a Black motorist named Leonard Deadwyler, while attempting to get his pregnant wife to a hospital, was killed by police officer Jerold Bova. D. COCHRAN: Yes, you were. Some studies found a problem, while others did not. All rights reserved. During the early 1980s, he oversaw a settlement for the family of African American football player Ron Settles, who died in a police cell under questionable circumstances. While your there, download our latest podcast, Jesse Ventura. BLACK: It does, Larry. Again, a wired ear piece down to an industry approved holster is what the people recommend. DR. KEITH BLACK, NEUROSURGEON, CEDARS-SINAI MEDICAL CENTER, JOHNNIE COCHRAN'S PHYSICIAN: Larry, memory loss can be a cause of concern. It gives me an opportunity to represent people who I believe are innocent. All Rights Reserved. So I guess it's your call! In 1978, Cochran once again became part of the citys legal force when he joined the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, although he eventually returned to private practice. (END VIDEO CLIP) KING: Sanjay Gupta joins us. ", In "Lethal Weapon 4," comedian Chris Rock plays a policeman who advises a criminal suspect he has a right to an attorney, then warns him: "If you get Johnnie Cochran, I'll kill you. People that work in plastic factories -- as Dale said, I think one of the things that we're very excited about is not only trying to identify potential causes that we can eliminate, but also trying to find effective treatments and cures at the Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. Cochran, is perhaps best known for representing former football star Simpson during his trial on They're emitting electromagnetic radiation too. And when patients or people were exposed to over 2,000 hours of cell phone use -- which is about an hour a day for 10 years -- that study reported about a 3.7-fold increase in the risk of developing brain cancer. Gender. We don't know about thresholds. I think arrogance is the worst way to go. It is a great pleasure to welcome to LARRY KING LIVE Dale Cochran, the widow of the famed attorney, the late Johnnie Cochran. During arguments last Tuesday, justices seemed skeptical of Cochran's attorney's claim that the injunction did not violate the First Amendment. Joining us in New York is Lewis Slesin. The family moved to California in 1943, where the younger Cochran eventually excelled as a student in what was becoming a more racially integrated environment. A team of researchers led by Northwestern University has achieved a breakthrough by producing the most mature neurons to date from human induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs). They got smaller, as you can see. We don't have a mechanism and that's a big stumbling block at the moment. The precautionary principle is a fancy version of the old (unproven) adage "better safe than sorry.". It's heating the brain. Were cell phones to blame? And I would under -- I would hope that most people are aware of what that is. The trial left many of those certain of Simpson's guilt furious at Cochran, the leader of a group of expensive celebrity lawyers that included F. Lee Bailey, Robert Shapiro, Barry Scheck and Peter Neufeld. Simpson's lead attorney Tuesday, saying he abruptly halted support payments after she discussed their relationship on television. Non-ionizing is less problematic, I think, than ionizing. KING: Some have called cell phone use more dangerous than smoking. It sort of drops off in terms of the amount of radiation you're exposed to. They certainly cause car accidents. The trial of the century, as it was dubbed, began in January 1995 and was among the most publicized in history, followed by millions around the world. GUPTA: Yes, I think so. Absolutely not. DR. MICHAEL THUN, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY: The way I think the best way to look at this is keep an open mind, but also be very aware of what we know and what we don't know. His work and leadership have had a lasting legacy almost two decades after his death, and in today's America, with the death of George Floyd and the nationwide So, you know, one's brain tumor may be or it may not be related to a particular type of environmental insult. Tory v. Cochran (search) involves a bitter ex-client who was ordered to never display a sign or speak about Cochran again. And I think when I had kids, I became more interested in it, frankly. BLACK: Again, I think the emissions from cordless phones in the house are very low, and I would be less concerned with those than cell phones. A brain tumor killed the famed attorney and father of three at the age of 67. So you can't run a comparison like tobacco and lung cancer, the user and the nonuser. KING: What do you read, Dr. Gupta. Brad has a phone in his pocket of his pants. He claimed that Pratt had been 350 miles away on the night of the murder. What, Dr. Khurana, does this tell us? Johnnie Cochran turned out to be right, famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz, a member of the Simpson defense team, said in 2005. And with so many users and users starting at the age of three and up now, we should be concerned. You are right. Sanjay is over by our board. So, you know, tumors that are closer to that area may be more likely. And I think I should quote them. But there's no reason to worry because so far, the studies haven't proven anything. KING: Is that something that you would possibly associate with cell phones? Ton can buy a new 1953 Ford 2-door Sedan delivered in 174q Ardmore for a 1177 Sam p. Hale phone 708 since 1911 balancing. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) KING: Welcome back to LARRY KING LIVE. "I didn't know too much about what a lawyer did or how he worked, but I knew that if one man could cause this great stir, then the law must be a wondrous thing," Cochran said in his book. In some of these European studies, almost a four times increased likelihood of developing tumors like this one in people who are chronic cell phone users. Furthermore, this is the public position of leading health organizations, such as the United States Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, the American Cancer Society, ACS, and the World Health Organization, WHO. KING: Is this much safer than that? He was 67. WebJohnnie Cochran lost his fight against brain cancer earlier this year. No one mentioned any study demonstrating the efficacy of either ear pieces or holsters, nor apparently considered whether radiating the region of the hips and sexual organs is preferable to radiating the brain. I mean they're invaluable, of course, as we all know. DR. TED SCHWARTZ, NEW YORK PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL: I don't really think they are worried about brain tumors. Some will courageously take the risk and apply the device daily in their confidence that tomorrow will bring definitive acute care treatments. That is what they recommend. Also, some of the studies say regular cell phone use is using it one time a week for six months. D. COCHRAN: Cedars-Sinai Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. GUPTA: It's interesting. This is a scan that somebody would get in the doctor's office. Cochran died in 2005 a decade before the upheavals that made police brutality and the unfair treatment of African American men by the justice system impossible to ignore. The Food and Drug Administration made recommendations about cell phone use. KING: What were his last days like? I loved him, and I will miss him. But, more importantly, my particular interest is to accelerate discoveries in the treatment of brain tumors, which is why I am so happy that we've established the Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. Shortly thereafter, he told the New York Post he was feeling well, and that he was in good health. And when you are actually using the phone, it should be kept at least 15 millimeters up to an inch away from your ear. (END VIDEO CLIP) KING: Dr. Gupta, Dr. Khurana and Dr. Thun remain with us. These docs commented on the "Interphone study" in which thirty-five researchers from all over the world sought to correlate cell phone use with brain cancer incidence. Two quick things, Lewis. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I wouldn't blame the cell phone companies. D. COCHRAN: Attach an earpiece immediately. The major do is use one of these wired ear pieces. LOS ANGELES (AP) _ Johnnie Cochran Jr.'s former mistress filed a palimony lawsuit against O.J. After graduating from UCLA, Cochran earned a law degree from Loyola University. Yes. GUPTA: Keep it away from your body. "But he and his family were most proud of the work he did on behalf of those in the community.". Before he leaves us -- he will be returning with Dana Cochran. KING: Johnnie Cochran probably was one of the best known attorneys in the United States. So we don't know what long-term effects that will have on memory as our young adults age and other KING: So this is a cause of concern? He remained a beloved figure in the black community, admired as a lawyer who was relentless in his pursuit of justice and as a philanthropist who helped fund a UCLA scholarship, a low-income housing complex and a New Jersey legal academy, among other charitable endeavors. Over the years, Cochran's roster included famous entertainers like actor Todd Bridges, who was charged with attempted murder, and pop icon Michael Jackson, with Cochran arranging an out-of-court settlement for the singer in relation to child molestation charges. We have an e-mail from Jody in North Royalton, Ohio: "My husband has a grade three inoperable glioma on the left side his brain. When that relationship soured, his mistress, Patricia Sikora, sued him for palimony and the case was settled privately in 2004. This month, sadly, one of the parties in the case - famed attorney Johnnie Cochran - died. But I do want to say that if you look at the literature now, most of the data shows that there is no link. And if you use your phone all the time -- like I -- you know, people in the news business, they have a cell phone to the ear all the time. KING: Dr. Black will be returning. So surgery, at least to try to remove all of the tumor that we could see on the MRI scan, was not one of the initial treatment options. KING: Dr. Khurana, you want to respond? First, to use cell phones less often and to use land lines whenever possible. BLACK: Teenagers and even younger -- and they will be using cell phones for 20 or 30 years, we do not have enough data now to say that, you know, that is a safe device. It gives you an opportunity to do interesting things. KING: Do you use cell phones, Dana? D. COCHRAN: Yes, I think people are concerned. He won a $760,000 award in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ron Settles, a black college football star who died in police custody in 1981. If you read this very carefully, it says, when carrying the device, not even when using it, just carrying it and the device is on, you should be using a specific pre-approved holster that has been tested for compliance. This is a Motorola phone. @@*@@* FILE @@*@@*Attorney Johnnie Cochran Jr. holds onto O.J. Let me show you what that looks like on an MRI scan. We know from laboratory animals, for example, that, you know, the most effective way of inducing a tumor is to induce it in a young developing embryo, in a young developing animal. BLACK: Well, there is a base line rate of people developing tumors. First, what do you think of the theory of the possibility of the cell phone causing brain cancer? Phone 2030 120 s. So just because it's -- you know, you have a tumor, doesn't mean that it's linked to cell phones. BLACK: Well, I think that we do not have conclusive studies, at this point, to make a scientific conclusion that there is a, you know, a definite correlation. Well, let's break it down a little. I mean I've spent the last year sort of really reading this. GUPTA: Well, let me give you a picture here, Larry, to sort of show you this. His clients also included Haitian immigrant Abner Louima, who was tortured by New York police, and Tyisha Miller, a 19-year-old black woman shot to death by Riverside police who said she reached for a gun on her lap when they broke her car window in an effort to disarm her. And there are 16 really good studies out there, a few since 2000. Brad has a phone in his breast pocket. Born in Shreveport, La., the great-grandson of slaves, grandson of a sharecropper and son of an insurance salesman, Cochran came to Los Angeles with his family in 1949. KING: Dr. Gupta, what do you make of what Dr. Khurana just said? He died from a brain tumor on March 29, 2005, at the age of 67. Journalist and author Jack Olsen reported that FBI "moles" had infiltrated defense sessions and monitored Cochran's phone calls. BLACK: I KING: I said Dane and it's Dale. The following decade, Cochran won a huge, unprecedented court payment for a 13-year-old molested by an officer. And it's only on LARRY KING LIVE. The main point is that if one is concerned about the emissions from cell phones, you can get rid of it almost entirely by a Bluetooth or ear plug. Cochran, who died in 2005, also is a central character on the FX series American Crime Story: The People Vs. O.J. Simpson of the murder, he was ordered to surrender by 11 am on june 17 Simpson did not surrender vanished, but was tracked down later in the day when he made a call from his cell phone on the Santana Ana freeway. Hardly anyone ever reads these safety manuals. GUPTA: It's hard to say. KING: Use it? This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Jeff and Laura, your prizes are in the mail. It's more the individual's responsibility. Pratt was released, with Cochran also overseeing a wrongful imprisonment suit.) I am proud to have called him my friend.". He's director of brain tumor surgery at New York Presbyterian Hospital. And I spoke with Johnnie and also with Dale and they flew back to Los Angeles, where we did further diagnostic studies. D. COCHRAN: Yes. Robert Bray appears as Major Cunningham. Do you think we'll have a statistical rate to link these two? (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) GUPTA (voice But first, if the manual says keep it in some sort of holster and keep it away from your ear, would you say the manufacturer is worried about something, Dr. Schwartz? BLACK: We did a biopsy, yes. Around this time, Cochran began to build a reputation for taking on cases involving questionable police actions against African Americans. ET) at his home in Los Angeles. And this is not implying that every brain tumor is the result of this. Thanks, Louis Slesin, for being with us. He was in New York at the time and had been admitted to a hospital in New York. Upon Simpson trying on bloodied gloves that prosecutors alleged were used during the murder, Cochran came up with a phrase that would become famous: If it doesnt fit, you must acquit. Under the auspices of Bailey, who had a private investigator background, the team also discovered that detective Mark Fuhrman had made racist, highly incendiary remarks about African-American citizens. So that's half of our world population, or almost half. KING: Louis, would it be a simple solution, everyone should use an ear phone? This is a great, exhilarating victory for Sean Combs. 12, 2005. And I think it's quite sensible for people who are concerned to use an ear phone and to basically eliminate their exposure. KING: Sanjay, what does the manual say? At times it was a lot of fun," he said of the lampooning he received. D. COCHRAN: I don't really like to use the word terminal. ", The flamboyant Cochran enjoyed that parody so much he even quoted it in his autobiography, "A Lawyer's Life. GUPTA: Yes, this is from the manufacturer themselves. Then, on October 15, 1995, the jury returned the not guilty verdict that divided the nation. Legal Statement. WebWhen evidence led police to suspect O.J. You know, a lot of studies may not be perfect. And, you know, when we were -- when I was researching for the book that you and I talked about, I looked into all of this. called in during that show. KHURANA: I strongly disagree with Dr. Thun's perspective. BLACK: Yes. GUPTA: There are a lot of don'ts. But in the Simpson case, Cochran turned the murder trial into an indictment of the Police Department, suggesting officers planted evidence in an effort to frame the former football star because he was a black celebrity. 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