I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" "The new material included about one second of video of the man walking behind the girls, his hat pulled down low, in the hopes that someone watching might recognize a quirk in his gait or a familiar mannerism, Superintendent Douglas G. Carter of the State Police said." Mike Patty reveals that he went back to the house to retrieve "phone information" and brought it to the police so they could start "pinging" Libby's phones. They dont even know if there were two killers. The other elements were are not sure they agreed on are: a giant plush toy animal, possibly a bear; a crucifix hung upside down; dolls hanging in trees; and a knife plunged into a log with one of the girls hands wrapped around it to make it appear she had stabbed the tree. On 12/8/22, the defense asked for its financial requests to be sealed so their defense strategy would not be revealed. I sure hope so. Archived post. He was a regular at JC's Bar and Grill, which has since been shuttered, where he liked to play pool, according to the Indy Star. The second woman largely corroborated much if not all of the first womans report. He posted them to his flickr and facebook. ", He encouraged the community to come forward with more information, and said if any other people "had any involvement in these murders in any way, that person or persons will be held accountable.". On Reddit someone said Gray Hughes got a huge tip in about a poi and he said that it had to be him and someone in the Reddit comments said that its only a few days until the person he thinks did it is arrested. Girls age 13-14 are notorious for missing periods some months and may even miss them for months at a time. The bodies of Liberty German and Abigail Williams were found on Feb. 14, 2017, after the two teens from Delphi, Ind. This is what I was told by my own mother, so take it as you will. This was no accident. Hes used to being part of teams with differing opinions. Libby was murdered in 2017 alongside her best friend, Abby Williams Credit: YouTube. He has pleaded not guilty to both counts. Law enforcement has said that the disposal sight was 0.5 miles from the end of the bridge and across the Deer Creek. They said that because its a composite that was junk from the very start, and further, it looks nothing like the main suspect. Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. Subscribe to Forensic Tales podcast so you dont miss an episode! Although the Delphi murders remained unsolved for over 3 years, the Indiana State Police department have not called their investigation a cold case. These sketches were both alleged to have been created by witnesses speaking with a sketch artist. How many saw Bridge Guy an. It is likely that all social media correspondence with the girls has been analyzed by the multi-agency task force. October 30, 2022; Richard Allen - Indiana Law & Potential Charges Relating to the Delphi Homicide October 29, 2022 Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Others were used by the Pharos Tribune in their coverage of the homicides. The only reason they would be looking for that is if the crime was videotaped. Thank you, dear. Two female members of the search party contacted team members separately with revelations about the crime. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. Bryant did not draw the sketch that police released in July 2017. Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. 12 Noe Padilla, Lafayette Journal . One of which is of a person "not considered relevant at this time." The girls were reported missing by 5:30 p.m., and an Amber Alert was sent out across the state of Indiana for the missing teenagers. It was a place known to be a hangout for young people. There were definitely dolls at the site that day. On Oct. 28, 2022, police confirmed Richard Allen was being held in connection to the killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. In this case, Stepson X would be completely innocent and would instead have been simply used as a pawn by Mr. X in committing his crime. The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nations most heinous, unsolved murders. To me they are like magicians pulling rabbits out of hats. "It's concerning that it's a local guy," Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said Monday at a press conference. We believe a lot of it is true. Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:49 file, Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:19 file. "I guess that's kind of the new mission.". Source:Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points Indiana State Police Bulletin. The rumor that dolls were scattered around the crime scene seems patently ridiculous. (JBC and others unknown). The police keep saying they're close to solving the case, is that true or is that a bad sign that they're far from it? Law enforcement has never spoken publicly in reference to specific named witnesses or sightings. A newspaper photographer, mentioned earlier in Evidence V, named J. Kyle Keener added a description to his facebook photo album in which he describes what he could see in the creek on February 14, 2017. Do you have a link about that? That Mr. X will be arrested so soon? b) Cheyenne saw a suspicious guy while walking her dog. ", Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. [9], The Monon High Bridge Trail is 1.44 mile long trail. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. I have a few, but they probably dont hold a candle to what you came up with. I think its likely the video/photos were found during the search of JBCs property and he led them to KAK. Timestamp 8:00Video of Indiana State Police Press conference, April 22 2019, 5. This is what they told us: But now we have a shocking new revelation. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. Libby is regarded as a true hero for having the presence of mind to record her killer. DELPHI, Ind. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. It sounds like they dont have enough to think this possible accomplice was actually involved, similar to the case against Mr. X. I think a witness might assume early on that since law enforcement had a photo and video what more do they need. He did not charge her, she said. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details . And they say the phone is now deadI saw the texts where they got delivered, but they never got read, [7]. "Doug Carter made it clear at the press conference yesterday that the investigation was not over, and he would not rule out the possibility of more people being involved. The exact body disposal location has never been released by law enforcement. Richard Allen's bail hearing has been set for Thursday, June 15 at 8:30 a.m. in Carroll County. Taking into consideration Indiana State Police's statement that the old and new sketch are "not the same person" it stands to reason that this description no longer applies. Delphi Murders: ISP says new audio, video and sketch shows Libby & Abby's killer. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. "So who knows what lies ahead? That is correct. It is also possible that this journalist meant only to imply that any video of a killer approaching would haunt investigators. For the first time, investigators have released evidence to implicate Richard Allen in the murders of Libby German and Abby Williams during a . Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. There was also a 19 year old man who lived on the street who was said to be talking to Libby, so that might be the tie-in you are thinking of. I didnt see the girls at all. Later I found that this same search party member had contacted two team members, and in addition, the second woman contacted one of the same team members. One is a middle-aged woman in her 40s with kids who is otherwise completely normal, and the new one who has come forward is a different woman in her 30s. lying in the grass between a group of trees deep in the woods, The bodies were found on private property, about. We can agree to disagree . Knowledge of the witness sightings is mainly given by the family of the deceased and through social media rumors. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. ", "A Delphi, Indiana, police detective looks for evidence at the scene where the two girl's bodies where found. Problem is if you are posting here, youre not posting in the private group. I'm beyond annoyed, I'm surprised you can't see my eyes rolling through the computer. June 27, 2021 Timothy Holmseth. east of the bridge and knew full well that the girls where found very nearby. The girls disappeared Feb. 13, 2017, after going for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail. The podcast is hosted by Jim Clemente who worked for the FBI for 22 years, in part as a Supervisory Special Agentinthe Behavioral Analysis Unit andFrancey Hakes, a former federal prosecutor andthe countrys first National Coordinator for Child Exploitation Prevention and Interdiction, a post appointed by the U.S. Attorney General. It turns out that the composite was fake in a sense. An interesting new theory has come up. are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. Perhaps the sister saw him while dropping them off and he debated killing her? The offender approached them from the north western side moving south east towards them. Arent you a member of the private group? Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but, Sgt. Also, a slow cut even with a big knife would not have drenched BG in blood. The vehicle (unknown make or model) was parked at an old CPD/DCS building in Delphi. Is it possible that the doll or stuff toy came from the old welfare building or CPS building that was torn down? Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. Thanks for pointing this out! So many new developments. Sickens me to watch people make it about lining their pockets, but you know Karna always has a way of rearing it head , Kegan Dunker is Garett Kirts good buddy. On February 19, 2017 law enforcement labeled the man in the image a prime suspect. I always thought it was child protective services until last year. I have a couple more theories I would like to discuss with you. But what exactly is known about the man charged with the 2017 m So theres no input from law enforcement at all in the generating of a sketch, other than my presence as the artist.". . Well thats because that's where all the kids were. Visitors Online 1,235 Visitors Online 1,235 Home. But theres no hard evidence that it is true. This section was relatively shallow and during certain seasons it acts as a sandbar. I saw your page on a social media thread and clicked on it and read all of the info you have about the Delphi Murders and I was just like woah. Privacy Policy. The new sketch released during a press conference on April 22 2019. I can give you instructions here if you like. -Mike Patty, Timestamp 32:00, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 6. The suspect, who appears to have no prior . DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. All arrows are in this map are abstract approximations and not intended to be taken literally. The sketch was drawn from an eye witness description of a man seen walking the trails the afternoon of the murders. They were lying in the grass between a group of trees deep in the woods. I think they love to hate you because you are that good! The suspect is seen walking across the bridge in blue jeans and a jacket. Your POI and my POI are the same person and I honestly didnt know half of what you have listed here! At 17, he was the right age for a 19 year old Catfish Boy. Delphi murders suspect Richard Matthew Allen, who was arrested last week for the 2017 double slaying of teens Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, lived and worked in the community . It carried trains high above Deer Creek until it was abandoned by CSX in 1987.The abandoned railroad bridge has since become a popular attraction for people who live in the area, despite its disrepair and exclusion from the official Delphi Historic Trail System. The Indy Channel article Delphi Daughters, 9. Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. Its long been suggested that BG used his sons photo, and talk of a father-son kill team was actually the first rumor about the killer(s), dating to 7 PM the day they were found. German's grandmother, Becky Patty, told FOX 59 that Allen was the CVS worker who processed her granddaughter's photos for her funeral. He and I dont necessarily agree on anything, but he doesnt seem to care about that. When she approached, offering help, the young man told her that he was waiting for his dad to pick him up. I almost hope that is the case. I'm sooo thankful the witness came through. We now have three separate LE source both reporting dolls at the crime scene. This case is like looking through a darkened window of a home, you can see what's going on in the living room but you have no idea what's happening in the kitchen. I forgot to mention that you said that you may have a motive? CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. By 4 p.m., it was like, 'oh man,''said Patty. " 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Libby German (left) and Abby Williams (right) were found dead in February 2017, Arrested for the two girls' murders last week was 50-year-old Delphi local Richard Allen, Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee, of The Murder Sheet podcast, expect plenty more twists in the coming weeks and months, Richard Allen is pictured with his wife with a sketch of the Delphi suspect visible in the background, One of the two composite sketches of the possible suspect released by law enforcement is seen above, The only known footage of the suspect was captured by Libby German on her phone, Richard Allen has no known criminal past and is a married pharmacy technician who worked at a local CVS, One of the final images captured by Libby German showed Abby walking along the Monon High Bridge Trial where the girls would ultimately meet their killer, Richard Allen has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder, Libby and Abby's manners of death have never been disclosed by the police, Delphi murders podcasters predict more bombshell twists in case after killer Richard Allens shocking arrest, Shock pics of Serena Williams' crumbling childhood home revealed as King Richards' legal battle over ownership rages on, Julie Powell shared disturbing tweets about health & 'black hairy tongue' a day before tragic cardiac arrest death at 49, Princess Diana was box office when she was alive - so if you dont like The Crown, dont watch, Heartbreaking new picture of American students killed in Seoul Halloween stampede taken only hours before tragic deaths, Takeoff shooting suspects hunted by Texas cops who urge witnesses to 'step up' after Migos rapper killed at party, Inside 'Killer Sally' McNeil's life after prison for Valentine's Day murder of 'abusive' husband Ray and her remarriage, Mystery deepens in disappearance of flight attendant Sarm Hislop from boyfriend's luxury boat as eerie new CCTV emerges, We spent years trying to find our real father only to discover the chilling truth from our mums doctor. 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